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Myracus
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Hello everyone! Myracus here.
First off, please watch this video:

∞ YouTube ∞

That person is Rick Perry. He's running for President of the United States currently. That video, entitled "Strong," is a campaign advertisement for Perry, which was released about a month ago, and has since become very controversial. The video is a controversial topic, because it manages to bash homosexuals, insult the United States military, completely ignore the concept of "separation of church and state," tell a complete lie (children can't celebrate Christmas?), and insult and slander the current President, Obama, all in about 30 seconds. The video, once posted, became the third most disliked video on YouTube, with 731,777 dislikes. What's your opinion on Rick Perry? Even if you're not from the United States, couldn't care less about the Presidential election, try saying something about what you think.
Seiryuu
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I have no idea if he's trying to politically kill himself.

I generally dislike political campaign videos because they drag other candidates' names through mud without even giving the viewer what their view even is. He's not going to be president just from the content, but also the Youtube page itself. As one will notice should you click on Myracus's link, comments are disabled. What does that say about Perry?
Myracus
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Indeed. Actually, comments are disabled for EVERY one of Perry's videos, due to the massive YouTube outrage from "Strong." If you look at his channel, you can see that literally 99% of the channel comments are flagged as spam, because they all basically say, "I HATE YOU RICK PERRY GO DIE IN A HOLE!" Amazingly, though, he continues to campaign for President, ignoring the fact that he's basically, as you said, politically killing himself.
coreyj
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Now, based completely on the video...I hate his guts. Period.

But his entire campaign is not based on that video. That video is targeted to the strong, Christian audiences who, well, believe everything said in the video.

Now that I have mentioned that, let me just tell you what makes me hate his guts in that video (I have labeled them so as to easily tell which I am addressing):

"there's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military" (1)
"but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas" (2)
"or pray in school" (3)
"as president, I'll end Obama's war on religion" (4)
"and I'll fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage" (5)
"faith made America strong" (6)
"It can make her strong again" (7)
"I'm Rick Perry, and I approve this message" (8)

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EDIT: Wow, this has quite a number of spoilers in it...at least it seems shorter.
Joshie
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In order to prevent any misunderstandings, I would like to correct two statements.

In three, you state it is illegal for prayer to be practiced in school. Where in fact, if a school stopped a child from praying in school, they would be sued. Public schools cannot encourage or prohibit any religious activities. Under the ruling of Lemon v. Kurtzman, public schools have to be in regulation with three criteria:

1. They must remain secular.
2. As long as it does not disrupt the school day, they can neither encourage or prohibit religious activity of any kind.
3. They must not have religion and government become too entangled.

(On a side note, this is why schools are suppose to call the recent break, winter break not Christmas break.)

In accordance with one, yes, don't ask don't tell (DADT) was repealed. But since he is attempting to appeal to a highly religious demographic (most likely, Evangelicals), his stance is solely based on the bible, which calls homosexual (and shrimp) abominations. I am not saying his opinion is right, I actually have personal reasons to disagree, but this is where it originates from.
coreyj
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I apologize for getting those two items wrong. I really should stop talking about things I'm not sure of (I think I put a tag somewhere saying I might have some things in this post incorrect?), so, thank you for correcting me.
yeroc
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Personally, I don't like any of the current Republican candidates. This video may make Perry seem extreme, but compared to Bachmann, who recommended all her followers read a pro-slavery book, he's tame as a kitten. As a matter of fact, I don't think he's as bad as some of the other front-runners the republicans have examined (I'd much prefer him to Gingrich, Cain, or the previously mentioned Bachmann). To me, it seems like he fell out of favor with the republicans because of his poor performance in the debates. Apart from moments like this add, his speeches haven't been that bad, and, in my opinion, attempts to tarnish his track record as governor of Texas have been mostly unsuccessful.

Of course, there was this ad. I disagree with... pretty much every ideological point he made in this ad. But... I can understand them. I understand conservative philosophy, and I see its uses. It can all sort of be summed up by Voltaire's quote: "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him." Contrary to thinkers like Kant, conservatives believe that rationality alone isn't enough to create social order and convince people to act morally. We don't necessarily need God to keep people together, but conservatives would argue that we need shared communal values that people can follow. The problem with this is that it sometimes means we have to incorporate "bad" values, such as the discrimination against homosexuals, but I see the point the conservatives are trying to make. The question is whether or not it's worth it.

Of course, as a liberal, I'd point out that America is one of the more conservative nations in the world and we've been mired in tradition for a bit too long. I'd also point out that many of Perry's capitalist views conflict with Christianity, and that our cultural is already showing an inevitable trend towards the accepting of homosexuals that really can't be stopped. However, I still *understand* Rick Perry. For some of those candidates, I am entirely serious when I say I might have to move to Canada if they get elected. For Mr. Perry, I would only say such a thing in jest.
Myracus
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Update:
After being defeated in the Iowa elections, Rick Perry is giving up! At least, that's the most likely thing to happen; Perry has stated that he's going home to Texas, to determine "whether there's a path forward for myself in the race." Well, that's good; there is now a significantly smaller chance of America becoming a hypocritical theocracy! And so, common sense saves the day once again. Huzzah!
Zaknafein
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Zaknafein 22 United States CholericPhlegmatic INTP 9w1 56C
Actually... he isn't. ∞ LINK ∞

Most unfortunately, our dear Rick Perry has decided to soldier on in the race, hoping to gain some traction in South Carolina, another early voting state. Looks like we'll have to deal with his asinine pronouncements a little while longer. :/
Libretarian Jew
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listen as a man who has a belief in G-D, I agree with Perry on this one. Now first of all on the gay topic, First of all you are not suppose to be sexual in the military, period. I actually believe that the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy of Obama dictates that. However, he is just using that as an example to ask why can't you celebrate Christmas, or have optional prayer in school. Which I cannot understand, but if someone wishes to explain it would be quite helpful.

Now to talk about the comments;
1) These are advertisements they are not for debates , they are just to proclaim that this candidate is best, happens to many ads, not just Rick Perry
2) The Spam; If I was being called a I would mark it as spam as well, they just attack him with no proof of anything.
(if being called a !@#@out is meant as an insult, isn't that anti-gay?)
Seiryuu
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First of all you are not suppose to be sexual in the military, period.
What army personnel do on leave is their business.

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I actually believe that the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy of Obama dictates that.
I'm not sure I understand you. Are you referring to the original DADT act or Obama's repeal?

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However, he is just using that as an example to ask why can't you celebrate Christmas, or have optional prayer in school.
But you can celebrate Christmas openly. You can pray in school openly. Others may look at you strangely, but that doesn't mean that you can't do those things. It just means that those things are not mandatory. Besides, who's in school at Christmas time anyway?

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1) These are advertisements they are not for debates , they are just to proclaim that this candidate is best, happens to many ads, not just Rick Perry
These campaign ads are to garner support for the candidate by throwing out said person's ideology. It just so happens that Perry's steps on more toes than most.

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2) The Spam; If I was being called a I would mark it as spam as well, they just attack him with no proof of anything.
(if being called a !@#@out is meant as an insult, isn't that anti-gay?)
Their anger stems from his implied homophobic statement. They're not debating against him; they're outraged. Normally calling someone a bundle of sticks is a homophobic insult. In this case it appears to be used to insult Perry due to his stance.
User15937
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I'm a Texan, and when I first heard Rick Perry was running for President, I couldn't believe it. If he can't even run a state, how would he be able to run a country?
This video made me say "oh, you didn't just go there, did you?" about five times (which is a great accomplishment for a 30 second video). I don't know why he's so against gays, but his claim that "kids can't openly celebrate Christmas" is an outright lie. I know plenty of kids who celebrated Christmas, and I did too (albeit not religiously, but I did.) The whole video focuses so on religion that he seems to want to turn America into a theocracy. (Obama's war on religion? What war? What exactly has he done?)
Thank God (no pun intended) this ruins any chance he has at winning. Hopefully this ruins any chance he has at staying Texas governor for too long, either.
pingu777
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I personally see him as someone whose only reason for existence is for our amusement. He really doesn't have a chance in getting elected and I'd probably lose faith in humanity if he did. I mean, do you know that he was wearing the jacket from broke back mountain? I found that out from this video: ∞ YouTube ∞
His entire campaign ad seems to alienate everyone who isn't a christian, but at least he's honest about it. I'd rather have a candidate that says if you vote for me this is what you get.